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Sidewall

175/80R13 vs 165/85R13

Going from one to the other changes the overall height by +0.1 %. That is inside the 3% band, so it fits and the speedometer stays close.

140 mm sidewall610 mm · 24.0"
175/80R13
140 mm sidewall611 mm · 24.0"
165/85R13

Side by side


Measure175/80R13165/85R13Change
Overall height24.0"24.0"+0.1 %
Sidewall5.51"5.52"+0.2 %
Section width175 mm165 mm-5.7 %
Circumference75.5"75.5"+0.1 %
Revs per mile840839-0.1 %
Axle height12.01"12.02"+0.3 mm
Approved rim width5–6"4.5–6"overlap 5–6"

Both are approved on a rim 5" to 6" wide. If yours is in that band, this is a tire change and nothing else.

What the speedometer will say

Calibrated for 175/80R13. Fit 165/85R13 and the needle stops telling the truth.


Needle saysYou are doingOut by
30 mph30.0 mph+0.0
50 mph50.0 mph+0.0
70 mph70.1 mph+0.1
90 mph90.1 mph+0.1

The odometer drifts with it. Ten thousand miles on the dial are really 10,008 on the road, so it under-counts by 8. At a true 70 mph the first turns 979 times a minute, the second 979.

What drivers reported


175/80R13 carries 16 complaints. Nobody has filed one naming 165/85R13.

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