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185/70R13 vs 165/80R13

Going from one to the other changes the overall height by +0.8 %. That is inside the 3% band, so it fits and the speedometer stays close.

130 mm sidewall589 mm · 23.2"
185/70R13
132 mm sidewall594 mm · 23.4"
165/80R13

Side by side


Measure185/70R13165/80R13Change
Overall height23.2"23.4"+0.8 %
Sidewall5.10"5.20"+1.9 %
Section width185 mm165 mm-10.8 %
Circumference72.9"73.5"+0.8 %
Revs per mile869862-0.8 %
Axle height11.60"11.70"+2.5 mm
Approved rim width5–6.5"4.5–6"overlap 5–6"

Both are approved on a rim 5" to 6" wide. If yours is in that band, this is a tire change and nothing else.

What the speedometer will say

Calibrated for 185/70R13. Fit 165/80R13 and the needle stops telling the truth.


Needle saysYou are doingOut by
30 mph30.3 mph+0.3
50 mph50.4 mph+0.4
70 mph70.6 mph+0.6
90 mph90.8 mph+0.8

The odometer drifts with it. Ten thousand miles on the dial are really 10,085 on the road, so it under-counts by 85. At a true 70 mph the first turns 1014 times a minute, the second 1006.

What drivers reported


185/70R13 carries 6 complaints. Nobody has filed one naming 165/80R13.

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