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185/70R15 vs 165/80R15

Going from one to the other changes the overall height by +0.8 %. That is inside the 3% band, so it fits and the speedometer stays close.

130 mm sidewall640 mm · 25.2"
185/70R15
132 mm sidewall645 mm · 25.4"
165/80R15

Side by side


Measure185/70R15165/80R15Change
Overall height25.2"25.4"+0.8 %
Sidewall5.10"5.20"+1.9 %
Section width185 mm165 mm-10.8 %
Circumference79.2"79.8"+0.8 %
Revs per mile800794-0.8 %
Axle height12.60"12.70"+2.5 mm
Approved rim width5–6.5"4.5–6"overlap 5–6"

Both are approved on a rim 5" to 6" wide. If yours is in that band, this is a tire change and nothing else.

What the speedometer will say

Calibrated for 185/70R15. Fit 165/80R15 and the needle stops telling the truth.


Needle saysYou are doingOut by
30 mph30.2 mph+0.2
50 mph50.4 mph+0.4
70 mph70.5 mph+0.5
90 mph90.7 mph+0.7

The odometer drifts with it. Ten thousand miles on the dial are really 10,078 on the road, so it under-counts by 78. At a true 70 mph the first turns 934 times a minute, the second 927.

What drivers reported


Nobody has filed a complaint naming 185/70R15. 165/80R15 carries 4.

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