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Sidewall

185/80R13 vs 165/85R13

Going from one to the other changes the overall height by -2.5 %. That is inside the 3% band, so it fits and the speedometer stays close.

148 mm sidewall626 mm · 24.7"
185/80R13
140 mm sidewall611 mm · 24.0"
165/85R13

Side by side


Measure185/80R13165/85R13Change
Overall height24.7"24.0"-2.5 %
Sidewall5.83"5.52"-5.2 %
Section width185 mm165 mm-10.8 %
Circumference77.5"75.5"-2.5 %
Revs per mile818839+2.5 %
Axle height12.33"12.02"-7.8 mm
Approved rim width5–6.5"4.5–6"overlap 5–6"

Both are approved on a rim 5" to 6" wide. If yours is in that band, this is a tire change and nothing else.

What the speedometer will say

Calibrated for 185/80R13. Fit 165/85R13 and the needle stops telling the truth.


Needle saysYou are doingOut by
30 mph29.3 mph-0.7
50 mph48.8 mph-1.2
70 mph68.3 mph-1.7
90 mph87.8 mph-2.2

The odometer drifts with it. Ten thousand miles on the dial are really 9,752 on the road, so it over-counts by 248. At a true 70 mph the first turns 954 times a minute, the second 979.

What drivers reported


185/80R13 carries 5 complaints. Nobody has filed one naming 165/85R13.

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